Northflank Breached

(status.northflank.com)

75 points | by js4ever 1 hour ago

8 comments

  • postalcoder 6 minutes ago
    I feel like these breaches started to accelerate after Anthropic wrote a full post about how easy it is to abliterate glm 5.3 to make a frontier-level cyber model.

    Now, to be clear, abliteration was no state secret, but that blog post was pure accelerationism.

    • tptacek 1 minute ago
      That was just 30 days ago. This has been happening for months. Part of the "Black October" narrative is just vulnerability research; Calif didn't abliterate 5.3 to find PHP2Shell.
  • dangoodmanUT 57 minutes ago
    Unfortunately for infra startups, I think we're going to see a convergence back to hyperscalers as a result of incidents like this and railway.

    There's no amount of "nicer to use" that can replace security, at least certainly when selling to enterprises

    • mac3n 9 minutes ago
      > There's no amount of "nicer to use" that can replace security, at least certainly when selling to enterprises

      Azure would beg to differ.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50301854

      • FLeXMurphy 7 minutes ago
        A moron could build a better UX and DevX.
        • minraws 1 minute ago
          I have a bridge to sell you if you think everyone on the Azure team is sub-moron. Infra security is a hard problem to solve, GCP and AWS don't quite have a perfect track record either, perhaps AWS stands out as a better option but it's hard to argue about it.
    • bix6 48 minutes ago
      Are hyperscalers actually more secure though? I have only heard anecdotal thinking eg nobody ever got fired for choosing IBM.
      • baxtr 45 minutes ago
        It’s the same thing: let’s say Microsoft or AWS got hacked. Then you’re definitely not the only one who got hacked.

        So, you can always say: Look, it’s not us (especially not my org!). It f’ing Microsoft/AWS. Everyone got hacked.

        You and your career are gonna be fine.

        • InsideOutSanta 7 minutes ago
          Yeah, if Exchange goes down, you get a day off. If the little boutique email provider you chose goes offline, you get a day in calls with everyone yelling at you.
        • codegeek 33 minutes ago
          The whole "No one gets fired for using IBM" analogy.
      • inglor 45 minutes ago
        When I was at Microsoft we took security cripplingly seriously to the point we could not deliver features and our competitors could because the security process was convoluted and had multiple reviews and approval steps.
        • Veserv 25 minutes ago
          Having crippling bureaucracy does not correlate with good security outcomes, except maybe negatively. However, having a history of unending egregious security failures, like Microsoft, does correlate with poor security outcomes. For that matter, having a present of unending egregious security failures also correlates with poor security outcomes.

          Let us look on the front page and see if there are any, oh look here is one: https://www.binarysecurity.no/posts/2026/10/one-root-case

          • keeda 2 minutes ago
            Having crippling bureaucracy does have better correlation with security outcomes than the “move fast, break things” philosophy that most of the software industry lives by.

            I’m not even blaming Zuck for that, he didn’t really invent it, though he certainly popularized it — he just made an astute observation of the dynamics in software and turned it into a company motto.

          • whimsicalism 23 minutes ago
            the only reason you’re seeing this post is because of the large bug bounty program that actors like Northflank don’t even operate
            • Veserv 2 minutes ago
              I do not see how that is relevant. Are you saying that trivial cross-tenant compromises are not egregious security failures demonstrating their systems are unfit for purpose because other companys make products that have even more egregious security failures that are even more unfit for purpose?

              My bridge that collapses is adequate and acceptable because other people make even worse bridges that collapse even easier? No, the bridge still collapses, everybody gets a F.

        • loloquwowndueo 42 minutes ago
          Tell me you weren’t on the Windows team without telling me you weren’t on the windows team :)
      • jareklupinski 33 minutes ago
        > nobody ever got fired

        thats the crux; are you working for the paycheck, or for the truth?

        could be both, but pretty much all "i was right" stories start with "everyone else said i was wrong"

    • nisegami 6 minutes ago
      >There's no amount of "nicer to use" that can replace security, at least certainly when selling to enterprises

      We can lower our standards instead

  • hmokiguess 1 hour ago
    What is Northflank? I am surprised at the amount of new business out there
    • gorgmah 1 hour ago
      I ran some stats on producthunt a few months ago, there are 22 times more daily SaaS launches now than in 2020, the AI impact on the industry is hard to fathom. The blog I wrote (AI-assisted) if you're curious: https://www.mahl.me/blog/product-hunt-is-swamped-now/
    • quadrature 1 hour ago
      Northflank isn't that new, it was founded in 2019. Its a cloud platform, you can get more details by googling.
    • paxy 1 hour ago
      You are on a YC startup forum and are surprised tech startups exist?
      • jmull 1 hour ago
        "amount" it says. No matter the context, there could be more than you expect.
    • jacquesm 57 minutes ago
      New businesses, not new business.
  • ankit70 52 minutes ago
    How these Paas (Railway before) are being breached? Poor choices or something else? Scary Nonetheless. I thought AI advancement will make the self hosting painful. If PaaS are no good, then what can be done?
    • btown 30 minutes ago
      Modern PaaS is tough because there's a general expectation that users (and agents) are able to see and read back environment variables in their management UI or CLI - which means that you can't segregate credential values from the public web environment. See e.g. the visibility icons on https://northflank.com/docs/v1/application/secure/inject-sec...

      And sure, you can encrypt at rest, and perhaps even enforce that only re-encrypted versions are ever seen by the management/API web server. But fundamentally this display requirement means that if your management/API web server is compromised, users' secrets can be obtained by a process of impersonation.

    • trouve_search 48 minutes ago
      Why would ai advancement make self hosting painful? Apart from increased cost of hardware (which you implicitly would pay for in PaaS as well anyways).

      If anything, AI makes running linux boxes much easier than 4 years ago; it's now faster and the learning cliff is gone to get the correct CLI commands and digging into system logs.

      • whimsicalism 21 minutes ago
        platforms are better placed to guard against attackers
      • monster_truck 41 minutes ago
        if you're still doing that manually in 2026 you probably should not be self hosting anything of consequence or commercial liability
        • dns_snek 16 minutes ago
          What's "that"? Running your own hardware, using a CLI to manage servers, or touching anything below your application layer?
    • vorpalhex 47 minutes ago
      When you build something small, you can easily see all the doors and properly guard them.

      As you build something bigger and bigger, quickly, with several people building, guarding all the doors becomes exceptionally difficult without a kind of aggressive discipline which is contrary to the "go fast" culture.

      Cybersecurity in practice until now, for most companies, has been an insurance problem, not a quality problem.

      Such companies are quickly discovering that insurance is a post-hoc partial correction and not a proper solution.

      This situation will not improve anytime soon for most companies.

      The solution does not require any new magical tools.

  • gavxn 47 minutes ago
    Does anyone know to what degree Sentry use Northflank?
  • sergiotapia 7 minutes ago
    So sad...

    Unfortunately I'm not longer using PaaS tools. Instead I use Azure for work and vps now for all my personal stuff. With AI it's easier than ever to lock a server down tight and mitigate this kind of exposure.

  • carimura 57 minutes ago
    i'm surprised at the growth of all these neoclouds given the current security risk climate...