Elevated Errors for Multiple Models

(status.claude.com)

115 points | by __vivek 1 hour ago

36 comments

  • jotaefea 4 minutes ago
    Codex seems to also be down for some folks (me included) https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1w69ff6/whats_this_e...

    Their status page is hard to believe given how many folks are chiming in to report on Reddit https://status.openai.com/

    • anonbuddy 0 minutes ago
      chatgpt is down as well - interesting
  • teekert 1 hour ago
    A nice chance to try sonnet again, must say, I'm not missing the load bearing assumptions, honest read of the permission matrix, what's genuinely a Django convention and what's a design choice, what's worth my thinking, and what's worth being precise about.

    Long story short, it seems to be faster and less vocal but not much dumber (it's just my thinking partner, so I read a lot of the output as I create a large data model).

    • martinald 5 minutes ago
      The other bizarre word I've now noticed and can't understand is "pathological". As in "bug has turned pathological"
    • devin 31 minutes ago
      Reading this made me ill. Nice job!
    • nonethewiser 1 hour ago
      Way leas capable of taking high level instructions and making sensible changes across a codebase.

      Good for more precise changes.

    • Syntaf 18 minutes ago
      I've almost entirely stopped using Opus 5, at least with Sonnet I know what i'm getting -- Fable for the complex stuff and Sonnet for the precision changes.

      The verbosity of Opus 5 isn't even my issue, it's consistency. For every 10 tasks Opus 5 accomplishes, there's at least one task that Opus 5 does just an atrocious job of, or a debugging investigation that it just completely goes off the rails on.

    • echelon 16 minutes ago
      My engineering has changed so much that I'm now using this time to catch up on emails and think about design and architecture for the next leg of work. (And post on HN, of course.)

      I would never have predicted this a year ago.

      I always scoffed about engineers not doing work during Github outages - I'd always find some kind of other engineering to do if PRs or builds were piling up.

      But during model outages, and since I'm not actively set up to use OpenAI/Codex at the moment, I'll just find something else productive to do. I don't think I'm ever going to write code by hand again unless I'm fixing something the AI can't manage or the change is small enough. Why even try when the machine is 100x faster?

      Should I give Codex another try? It's been a month or so since I last used it, and it always felt inferior at Rust and TypeScript.

  • alberth 0 minutes ago
    Is Cloudflare the corrupt fro multiple AI labs having problems

    https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/?t=1

  • trjordan 1 hour ago
    Grok models are struggling too: https://status.x.ai/ reply

    Looks like trouble in the SpaceX datacenters.

    • torginus 1 minute ago
      Isn't this the classic blackout scenario? Claude goes down, then people move over to Codex, which is overwhelmed, and crashes, so people move to Grok...
    • Aboutplants 12 minutes ago
      Their figures are only getting worse with time interestingly enough with non-inference dipping under 100%. Wonder what is going on
      • martinald 3 minutes ago
        Bit of a misleading status page, if you click in you can see that grok 4.5 and 4.6 etc are totally down, with the rest of the models showing as "up". I_strongly_ suspect they are not weighting it to actual number of requests!
    • alansaber 53 minutes ago
      What could go wrong with building them as fast as physically possible?
      • clickety_clack 47 minutes ago
        What works for me to avoid these problems is not scaling.
    • matt-p 27 minutes ago
      I wonder where eu-west is.
      • Aldipower 22 minutes ago
        French Guiana ?
        • foresterre 14 minutes ago
          Far more likely Ireland, like it is for AWS. Could also be Paris, London, Amsterdam, etc.
    • empath75 43 minutes ago
      I would be _very_ surprised if anthropic relied heavily on spacex datacenters already.
      • matt-p 36 minutes ago
        I wouldn't. When you're operating at say 95% realtime capacity suddenly losing even lets say 10% of your compute leads to major pain.
  • scottydelta 50 minutes ago
    The interesting thing is they changed default mode for Claude code to auto mode and auto mode uses sonnet to decide whether the command is safe or not. With their Sonnet model outage, the entire thing stopped working.

    here is the error it was throwing:

    > Error: claude-sonnet-5[1m] is temporarily unavailable (overloaded), so auto mode cannot determine the safety of Edit right now. Wait a moment and then try this action again. If it keeps failing, continue with other tasks that don't require this action and come back to it later. Note: reading files, searching code, and other read-only operations do not require the classifier and can still be used.

    • rrrx3 40 minutes ago
      ahhh, sonnet shitting the bed explains why I started getting prompted for basic approvals last night and early this morning
    • throw83930489 41 minutes ago
      I am on YOLO (not auto), still the same problem.
  • tekacs 4 minutes ago
    Amusingly and frustratingly, this coincides with Codex also being down right now:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1w69ff6/whats_this_e...

    • jsw97 2 minutes ago
      This of course could be a coincidence. But I suppose also that if one goes down the others get slammed, so there could be a cascade. If I were another provider I would possibly monitor Claude outages (or vice versa) as a load predictor.
    • graemep 2 minutes ago
      Possibly people switching work from Claude to Codex?
  • _Tev 1 minute ago
    Gemini (free) throws errors for me too.

    EDIT: it was just 3.6 Flash, 3.1 Pro works it seems.

  • nr378 24 minutes ago
    The competition for the least reliable developer service continues between GitHub.com and Claude.com...
  • stri8ted 1 hour ago
    Demand > supply. It's impressive that customers have not migrated en masse to other providers, given the frequency of these outages. Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe. Or, qualitative differences between models continue to exist, despite matching on public benchmarks.
    • kilroy123 56 minutes ago
      I think a lot of people, like myself, have. Codex paid users have grown a lot in the past few months.
    • hmokiguess 34 minutes ago
      Demand is actually shared between users and internal. Anthropic uses their own compute for training and building.
    • throw83930489 34 minutes ago
      I did migrate 80% of my tokens. But for some tasks claude models are still the best.

      Easy workaround is to work outside US peak hours (europe morning). I love this outages, I am hardly affected, and weekly reset usually promptly follows!

    • enraged_camel 54 minutes ago
      >> Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe.

      I haven't switched because there's nothing to switch to that is anywhere as good. I've been making dedicated attempts at using Sol but it falls short, despite what some people claim.

    • bflesch 57 minutes ago
      That's quite a reach. More likely someone merged and deployed their vibe-coded PR and is now figuring out how to bring the service back up.

      If there's a lot of demand for rollercoaster rides, the rollercoaster will not stop operating; instead the queue of people in front of it will increase.

      It's not like a bridge or elevator where we have a certain number of people that can use it, and if one more person joins, the whole structure breaks apart and everybody perishes.

      Those guys are running a website that provides an interface for some specific hardware. Just like file hosting providers back in the day selling their terabyte-sized hard disks in 100MB-increments.

      • stri8ted 53 minutes ago
        > instead the queue of people in front of it will increase.

        This can ultimately result in the system breaking. I don't think Anthropic engineers are that much worse than their peers, such that they are 10x more prone to causing outages due to bad deployments.

    • testfrequency 58 minutes ago
      If only every outage was due to “demand”.
      • stri8ted 57 minutes ago
        Reduced weekly limits, higher prices than competitors, paying well above spot price for space-x compute, all point to supply issues.
      • ieie3366 54 minutes ago
        Do you really think it’s a coincidence claude outages always happen when US and EU workdays overlap?

        Anthropic is a trillion dollar company and employs way more skilled high-paid engineers than you are btw, you really think it’s a systems issue not capacity

  • dgellow 1 hour ago
    It would be really funny if Anthropic engs run open weight models locally when they need to fix Claude API issues :)
    • throwup238 57 minutes ago
      Or just their own models locally, since 8x GPU pods fit under a desk (makes a nice foot heater too)
      • jaggederest 3 minutes ago
        It's been a while since I messed with serious hardware, what's the cooling noise level? I guess they have to be water cooled or the rack format 8u ones would be about 100db
  • TomGarden 5 minutes ago
    Only Sonnet working over here, but it feels really fast and good. I could get used to this... Really wanted to take Fable 5.1 for a spin though
  • small_model 4 minutes ago
    Grok, Codex and Claude Code all not working for me now (server issues)
  • jodacola 1 hour ago
    Setting aside annoyance at the downtime, I'm really curious about the reasons for the failures, because I have to imagine there are some novel failure modes when serving these giant models that I haven't experienced with the kind of work I've done.

    Anyone out there working in this space who can elucidate us on interesting failure scenarios unique to the space?

    • martinald 53 minutes ago
      It's (mostly?) compute shortages. Right now it seems there is an issue in the SpaceX datacentres, so they will have less compute than normal.
  • gtsnexp 9 minutes ago
    Open AI models just went down as well. What is going on?
    • ModernMech 6 minutes ago
      chat.com is down for me but the models seem to still be working. But actually i noticed instability last night at 3am eastern when thinking kept repeatedly failing.
      • gtsnexp 6 minutes ago
        Zed is not able to access the API
        • ModernMech 2 minutes ago
          I'm monitoring a process started in codex so maybe already in-flight things are still going / are about to hit a wall.
  • stacktrace 1 hour ago
    Not just claude, even grok seems to be down - https://status.x.ai/

    If I didn't know any better, I would have said Grok is using Claude behind the hood. But definitely curious now why it’s happening with both these LLM providers around the same time

    • aurareturn 57 minutes ago
      Looks like a SpaceX issue then.
      • stacktrace 55 minutes ago
        Ahh, thanks for pointing it out. But it's rather interesting that Claude recognised the outage quicker on their status page than Grok.
    • zipy124 58 minutes ago
      Don't they just share the colossus 1 data center?
    • Phemist 58 minutes ago
      Potentially because they run from the same colossus DCs?
  • d1ss0nanz 54 minutes ago
    If y'all could just log off for the day, that would be great!
    • rrrx3 32 minutes ago
      grass touching not allowed. shareholder profits must increase
      • jaggederest 1 minute ago
        Don't think of it as being unable to work, just like github outages, it's two weeks a year of mandatory time off
  • nprateem 3 minutes ago
    ChatGPT also has started failing. Impossible to work.
  • nikhizzle 1 hour ago
    Kind of cool how fable 5.1 just worked around these by reassigning subagents to non-failing models with more supervision and now with a hint to Sol and Flash 3.8.
  • giancarlostoro 1 hour ago
    What's funny is I had just told Claude to kill whatever coding loop it had running. Then got a 529 immediately.
  • rob 1 hour ago
    Officially signing up for the $200 Codex plan now. I do like CC, but these errors are happening every week now, and if they (Anthropic) gave regular resets that's one thing, but somehow I'm already at 62% weekly usage after the random reset this Tuesday using Fable 5.1 medium. Just not worth it any longer compared to Codex IMO. I already set up my skills and everything to be generic and not CC specific, so it shouldn't be too hard to transition over. I'll run both for a month and decide.
    • SunshineTheCat 4 minutes ago
      Couldn't recommend it more. I've been on their $100/mo. plan and they keep randomly resetting my weekly usage limit. It's been wild. Don't know how long it will last, but I couldn't go through all my usage if I tried.

      Their Sol model has been doing great for most of my tasks, even at its "Medium" setting.

      Much different picture then back when I was using Claude. I would sneeze and half my usage would be gone and then it go down several times in between.

      Hope it goes well for you too!

    • FoundTheShill 11 minutes ago
      kys
  • Khaine 29 minutes ago
    Maybe the models have gone rogue again
  • _joel 1 hour ago
    Damn, I'll have to think for myself now...
    • teekert 53 minutes ago
      Haha, I was more like: I have to think alone now. But I get the feeling, as someone who has always made a point of using only foss on my own machines (own the means of production so to say), this is a weird time. I don't like it, I hope soon local models get good. But in the mean time... We have this... dependency.
      • airhangerf15 24 minutes ago
        I use a lot of spec driven development today. It does allow me to make workflows that were on my Life's backlog for months or years in 10~20 minutes. It's amazing, but also I lack ownership over the thing made. It's like I paid a contractor.

        I can feel that my actual cognitive engineering skills are in decline. Does anyone else see this? To those of you who haven't hand written a PR in months, can you still write your own personal software as easily as you once could?

    • Linello 1 hour ago
      Cursor Grok models are down too...maybe a datacenter outage?
  • wslh 11 minutes ago
    I just experienced this through OpenRouter and filed a refund request. I'm curious how OpenRouter handles incidents like this across such a large number of models and providers.
  • cute_boi 14 minutes ago
    Are they going to reset?
  • aqme28 1 hour ago
    This pushed me off of a cheaper model into a more expensive one :'(
  • eis 56 minutes ago
    Cost and reliability are the two reasons why we don't use Claude in our product. Getting close to one nine, that's not something one can build a reliable product upon. We now use OpenAI with Gemini fallback (or vice versa depending on use case). Personally I like Claude and have the 20x Max plan but even there I burned through the whole weekly quota with 3 prompts in less than a day using the new Fable 5.1 which is crazy. Now Opus 5 is down. These two issues are really testing my patience.
  • mtgh2s 1 hour ago
    Every time I see Anthropic ship an issue like this, I'm reminded of Boris Cherny's glorious quote: "At this point it's safe to say that coding is largely solved."

    lol

  • aurareturn 1 hour ago
    It goes down so often that I've advocated my company create enterprise Codex accounts as backup for devs.
    • dofm 30 minutes ago
      Using the backup compute capacity stored above their shoulders is somehow unthinkable?
  • chrisjj 47 minutes ago
    > Elevated errors

    Anthropic, please hire a literate human.

  • bflesch 1 hour ago
    During each forced workflow interruption I look for alternatives. No matter if I can't use the product due to a server outage or due to their weird quota limitations.

    This can't be good for retention numbers. Old-school VCs would've ripped them apart in the air. Where did all the expertise go?

    • stri8ted 44 minutes ago
      I suspect the only reason those alternative providers have better up-time and more generous quotas, is because they don't have nearly the same amount of demand. Notice that Deepseek recently had to increase their pricing, once it gained it popularity.
    • derwiki 53 minutes ago
      Good day to try omp and GLM 5.3
  • Anslopic1 15 minutes ago
    [dead]
  • YCandHN 13 minutes ago
    Nobody uses this shit
  • jh54 43 minutes ago
    HN is not a claude uptime tracker!!
    • kingkawn 24 minutes ago
      Since an overwhelming number of people who use it are Hackers who come here to seek News it seems relevant