9 comments

  • ijustlovemath 1 hour ago
    Automated glucose control will be the next frontier in so many areas of healthcare. I'm still skeptical that anyone will be able to noninvasively and accurately sense blood sugar, but I'm glad people (especially kids with T1) will have one more tool to help them. I hope they can figure out the reimbursement side to get it into the most hands possible!
    • SV_BubbleTime 0 minutes ago
      I wonder if there are any legs in an internal sensor that pushes out its reading every x? That seems pretty plausible.
  • dec0dedab0de 6 minutes ago
    Does anyone know if something like this is required to be approved by the FDA? Like if someone were to make one for the hobbyist/weight loss market, would that even be legal?
    • rootsudo 2 minutes ago
      Basically yes, take a look at the not for human consumption drug, sorry medicine market.

      Was analogs in the 2010s, Obama had to pass the analog act low… now it’s back with peptides and glp 1 which aren’t scheduled but..

      Yeah I guess make enough money and then lobby for the benefit of your audience base or for future proscuation

  • imglorp 45 minutes ago
    What about all the other wearable sensors like

    https://www.stelo.com

    https://www.hellolingo.com

    • ijustlovemath 26 minutes ago
      The difference is that these only measure blood sugar, while the new system also measures ketones, of keto diet fame, which are leading indicators of a really dangerous situation called diabetic ketoacidosis. It's treatable with a hospitalized IV insulin drip, but can be avoided if you have some advance notice.
    • mapkkk 20 minutes ago
      These are the same CGM technologies (Dexcom = Stelo and Lingo = Libre), just aimed at the over the counter "health and fitness" market.

      This is not verified info, but I would assume these are either A) the exact same device, just with different marketing B) "binned" production runs that did not meet the accuracy threshold for clinical/prescribed use, but are otherwise "good enough" for someone looking to healthmaxx.

      • cogman10 1 minute ago
        I can all but guarantee you they are the same device. IDK if they are even binned differently. The software is the main difference.

        The "real" device gives you what it measures as your real highs and lows while the OTC devices won't report high highs or low lows.

        I have a Stelo (I was curious and diabetes runs in my family) while my wife has the Dexcom.

    • Someone 33 minutes ago
      Those ‘only’ measure glucose levels. As the article says, this is the first approved device that monitors both ketone and glucose levels.
    • jvanderbot 29 minutes ago
      No FDA authorization I guess
  • petesergeant 1 hour ago
    I thought this was going to be a non-invasive sugar-level device, but it looks like in fact the innovation here is that a popular CGM line can now do ketones?
    • ijustlovemath 48 minutes ago
      non-invasive continuous blood sugar measurement is mired in patents and technical challenges. Turns out it's really difficult to disambiguate the absorption lines of glucose from other similarly shaped molecules when you're also dealing with untangling skin conductivity, transmissivity, sweat, inflammation etc.
      • johen8 32 minutes ago
        I also think there's no financial incentive from incumbents to develop something like this. Why would abbott develop something that works "forever" if they can milk people buying new sensors every 10~14 days.
        • cogman10 16 minutes ago
          For abbott, no. But what about for Garmin, Apple, Samsung, or Google?

          Diabetics would snap up a smart watch which does accurate glucose monitoring in a heartbeat.

          • petepete 4 minutes ago
            As a T1 diabetic, can confirm.
          • ijustlovemath 12 minutes ago
            There is a major IP holder in the space who is asserting their ownership, so even if they could solve the technical challenges, they might not be able to come to market.
            • nomel 3 minutes ago
              > There is a major IP holder in the space who is asserting their ownership,

              Is it a secret? Why not name them?

    • jakefromstatecs 46 minutes ago
      Seems to be the case, yeah
  • ck2 1 hour ago
    bet marathoners and ultra runners will start using this to improve performance

    (don't have a problem with that, but it's predictable)

    too bad it's not "wearable" like a watch but that might be coming eventually too since Garmin has a patent on it

    * https://the5krunner.com/2026/02/06/garmin-non-invasive-blood...

    (btw Fenix 9 launched today but it's same hardware as Fenix 8 and no glucose feature)

    • mikestew 35 minutes ago
      There has been talk, but as one who hangs around those circles I've not heard of anyone actually doing it. But I'm sure someone is. At the same time, what I'm reading is that CGM won't give a non-diabetic any actionable information.
      • ijustlovemath 29 minutes ago
        a regulated blood sugar level aids massively in cellular repair, inflammation reduction, and immune response. These are well studied and established. I could absolutely see a top athlete using AID in the future as part of a recovery routine, but I can also understand reluctance to adopt anything new or weird.
    • francisofascii 31 minutes ago
      I am curious how this will help. During training? During the actual race, the strategy is to eat a much as you can without puking.
    • loeg 30 minutes ago
      > to improve performance

      How? Like, what is the mechanism where this is useful?

  • BeaverGoose 18 minutes ago
    Can't trust the FDA anymore
  • riazrizvi 28 minutes ago
    So she was merely ahead of her time.
    • yreg 25 minutes ago
      The use case was never the problem. The problem was that it did not work.
    • refulgentis 21 minutes ago
      Who?
      • wqtz 17 minutes ago
        Theranos lady.
        • refulgentis 9 minutes ago
          Huh, makes 0 sense to me, blood tests w/o much blood isn’t same as glucose checking, we’ve been able to do that w/o much blood for…a long long time.
    • Forgeties79 25 minutes ago
      That silly patch idea?
  • grahar64 46 minutes ago
    Looked after my son who has T1D for now 5 years, checked keytones maybe 20 times. Compared to blood glucose which we check look at every 5 minutes.

    Maybe this is more for Type 2 or other diabetes, or for people prone to DKA. Or it is for people with a working pancreas who think looking at their blood sugars (and now keytones) tells them something like soothsayers reading tea leaves

    • happyopossum 42 minutes ago
      Considering that DKA accounts for 160k hospital admissions a year, your lived experience translates poorly to such a flippant dismissal.

      [0] https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/about/diabetic-ketoacidosis.htm...

      • cogman10 7 minutes ago
        I agree, but there are a lot of factors going on to contribute to that number.

        For example, about 20% of that number is because someone is finding out for the first time they have T1D [1].

        Insulin costs and monitoring costs are also going to be a pretty big contributing factor. CGMs and finger sticks aren't cheap.

        IDK how often it happens that ketoacidosis happens when glucose appears to be fine, I assume it's pretty rare.

        [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016882272...

      • badc0ffee 28 minutes ago
        DKA is what killed the legendary Dan Kaminsky.
    • gluboy1 38 minutes ago
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